Last weekend, I had dinner with one of the oldest and best performing technology managers in Silicon Valley. We met at a small out of the way restaurant in Oakland near Jack London Square so no one would recognize us. It was blessed with a very wide sidewalk out front and plenty of patio tables to meet current COVID-19 requirements.

The service was poor and the food indifferent as are most dining experiences these days. I ordered via a QR code menu and paid with a touchless Square swipe.

I wanted to glean from my friend the names of the best tech stocks to own for the long term right now, the kind you can pick up and forget about for a decade or more, a “lose behind the radiator” portfolio.

To get this information I had to promise the utmost confidentiality. If I mentioned his name, you would say “oh my gosh!”

Amazon (AMZN) is now his largest holding, the current leader in cloud computing. Only 5% of the world’s workload is on the cloud presently so we are still in the early innings of a hyper-growth phase there.

By the time you price in all the transportation, labor, and warehousing costs, Amazon breaks even with its online retail business at best. The mistake people make is only focusing on this lowest of margin businesses.

It’s everything else that’s so interesting. While its profitability is quite low compared to the other FANG stocks, Amazon has the best growth outlook. For a start, third party products hosted on the Amazon site, most of what Amazon sells, offer hefty 30% margins.

Amazon Web Services (AWS) has grown from a money loser to a huge earner in just four years. It’s a productivity improvement machine for the world’s cloud infrastructure where they pass all cost increases on to the customer who, once in, buys more services.

Apple (AAPL) is his second holding. The company is in transition now justifying a massive increase in earnings multiples, from 9X to 40X. It now trades at 30X. The iPhone has become an indispensable device for people around the world, and it is the services sold through the phone that are key.

The iPhone is really not a communications device but a selling device, be it for apps, storage, music, or third party services. The cream on top is that Apple is at the very beginning of an enormous replacement cycle for its installed base of over one billion phones. Moving from up-front sales to a lifetime subscription model will also give it the boost.

Half of these are more than four years old, positively geriatric in the tech world. More than half of these are outside the US. 5G will add a turbocharger.

Netflix (NFLX) is another favorite. The world is moving to “over the top” content delivery and Netflix is already spending twice as much on content as any other company in this area. This is why the company won an amazing 21 Emmys this year. This will become a much more profitable company as it grows its subscriber base and amortizes its content costs. Their cash flow is growing by leaps and bounds, which they can use to buy back stock or pay a dividend.

Generally speaking, there is no doubt that the pandemic has pulled forward some future technology demand with the stay-at-home trend. But these companies have delivered normal growth in a hard world. Tech growth will accelerate in 2021 and 2022.

5G will enable better Internet coverage for everyone and will increase the competitiveness of the telecom companies. Factory automation will be another big area for 5G, as it is reliable and secure and can be integrated with artificial intelligence.

Transportation will benefit greatly. Connected self-driving cars will be a big deal, improving safety and the quality of life.

My friend is not as worried about government threatened breakups as regulation. There will be more restraints on what these companies can do going forward. Europe, which has no big tech companies if its own, views big American tech companies simply as a source of revenues through fines. Driving companies out of business through cutthroat competition is simply not something Europeans believe in.

Google (GOOG) is probably more subject to antitrust proceedings both in Europe and the US. The founders have both retired to pursue philanthropic activities, so you no longer have the old passion (“don’t be evil”).

Both Google and Facebook (FB) control 70% of the advertising market between them, which is inherently a slow-growing market, expanding at 5% a year at best. (FB)’s growth has slowed dramatically, while it has reversed at (GOOG).

He is a big fan of (AMD), one of his biggest positions, which is undervalued relative to the other chip companies. They out-executed Intel (INTC) over the last five years and should pass it over the next five years.

He has raised value tech stocks from 15% to 30% of his portfolio. Apple used to be one of these. Semiconductor companies today also fall into this category. Samsung with 40% margins in its memory business is a good example. Selling for 10X earnings, it is ridiculously cheap. It is just a matter of time before semiconductors get rerated too.

He was an early owner of Tesla (TSLA) back in the nail-biting days when it was constantly running out of cash. Now they have the opposite problem, using their easy access to cash through new share issues as a weapon to fight off the other EV startups. Tesla is doing to Detroit what Apple did to the cell phone companies, redefining the car.

Its stock is overvalued now but will become much more profitable than people realize. They also are starting to extract services revenues from their cars, like Apple has. Tesla will grow revenues 30%-50% a year for the next two or three years. They should sell several million of the new small SUV Model Y. Most other companies bringing EVs will fall on their faces.

EVs are a big factor in climate change, even in China, the world’s biggest polluter. In Europe, they are legislating gasoline cars out of existence. If you can make money building cars in Fremont, CA, you can make a fortune building them in China.

Tech valuations are high, there is no doubt about it. But interest rates are much lower by comparison. The Fed is forcing people to buy stocks, enabling these companies to evolve even faster.

When rates rise in a year or so, tech stocks may have to come down. They have a lot more things going for them than against them. The customers keep coming back for more.

Needless to say, the above stocks should make up your shortlist for LEAPS to buy at the coming market bottom.